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Post by Jim-Falotico on Aug 29, 2016 20:41:06 GMT
Hi Shooters and friends: This is is an interesting video. There's a lot of club chatter about cleaning the barrell of a rifle or pistol.
Im not offering or advising anyone to clean or not to clean, that is the question.
Watch and enjoy seeing some great 100 yard .177 shooting.
Some interesting observations during this demonstration, they're quite dramatic.
Sound up and enjoy....
Comments?
youtu.be/OHltqsdySYU
Best regards to all;
Semper Fi
Jim Falotico
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Post by gregory on Sept 3, 2016 14:33:57 GMT
Jim, thanks for sharing!, interesting video. I didn't expect to see the pellet wobble so much when barrel was dirty. Some say the wobble starts immediately when it leaves the barrel, so that would be seen in 10m distance also, but the spread would be smaller. It's also possible that those airguns shooting at 100m lead the barrel more with their higher velocities. So many variables!
We only have low level leading in the barrel, no combustion byproducts like powder burners. Some folks say each pellet shot cleans out the previous lead or graphite from the pellet coating. Some say you only need to clean when stored for a long time to prevent the lead from oxidizing. So many opinions! Then you have the issue with if you decide to clean your barrel, what method to use.
1. shooting felt cleaning pellets through it.
2. pulling dry patches, cleaning pellets, bore snakes(without brass brush) though it.
3. pulling wet patches/cleaning pellets (non-petroleum based) through it.
4. pulling cleaning pellets with tiny strands of brass imbedded through it.
5. ............
Dale
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Post by Jim-Falotico on Sept 3, 2016 19:39:22 GMT
Dale:
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
As I said, there are so many schools of thought about cleaning that
I just leave well enough alone and not clean.
Lately, I have been paying closer attention to the uniformity of my pellets.
JC and me had a very in depth discussion about the effects of a pellet that
might have a nick or dent however small. Sorting and uniformity may just
"Buy" that extra point. I'm doing some exhaustive testing including
weighing every pellet. I've found even the top of the line R-10 match have variations
in weight. I tested a new tin of R-10s and found that some weighed 6.8grs to 7.2 or 7.3 grs.
So I assembled as many of the ones that came in at exactly 7.0 as my Benchrest Lot.
I also visually inspected and rolled them on a glass top table to indicate balance.
Believe it or not, some did not roll smoothly and seemed to have a wobble while rolling.
Could these bad boys in the Tin be the ones that throw that wayward 9 after a great hold?
Maybe so........as I said uniformity might be the key to consistent high scoring.
Thanks to JC for really bringing this to my attention. I was very surprised to see just how many pellets
failed the quality check.
Now maybe next time I'll inject some of my OCD into the equation.
All this makes a mountain of sense to me as a competitive (firearms) bullseye shooter.
Reloading for all my pistols I did pay extreme care in my powder charges in every cartridge I used in competition.
Weighing every charge to the 10th of a grain.
I did weigh every bullet and only used those that measured and weighed exactly what I was looking for.
I guess shame on me for assuming that all pellets are alike.
With the quality of some of the equipment on the line these days it's of paramount importance that we try to remove
any variable that we could control.
In offhand either rifle or pistol that strict uniformity is definitely not an issue, save those pellets that don't cut the scrutiny
for that discipline.
However in Benchrest we want to make as many things as perfect as possible.
Gee, did I mention the wind?
Nahhhh....... Forget that just wing it......lol
Best regards shooters and friends;
Semper Fi
Jim Falotico
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Post by gregory on Sept 4, 2016 15:02:25 GMT
Jim, I'm up north for at least another week. My MIL fell and broke her back, so the family needed our help. I can't wait to get back to TV and start shooting again. I'm really starting to like benchrest shooting. It's more of a challenge then most folks think. I sold my P70 Jr. and just bought a full size P70 Alu. to try out. The Jr was a fantastic shooter with great accuracy, so I'm hoping this one is too. The Cadets on the Citadel Military College Shooting Team in SC are now using the P70 Jr., so that made me feel good.
Another consideration is pellet head size (4.48, 4.49, 4.495, 4.50, 4.51, 4.52). Some sizes shoot better in a particular rifle than others. Again, so many variables to sort though, but that's part of the fun!
Dale
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Post by Jim-Falotico on Sept 5, 2016 1:55:55 GMT
Dale:
Prayers for a speedy recovery.
Fran and me both sends our thoughts to your family.
Best regards always;
Semper Fi
Jim Falotico
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jay
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Post by jay on May 22, 2018 2:00:49 GMT
Dale,
Listen to what Jim is telling you about pellet weight and size. Find what size shoots best in you air gun, then start weighing your pellets. The results will supprise you. It's the little things that count. Also,try oiling your pellets, every fifth pellet or every tenth pellet. Don't be afraid to try something new.
Only clean the air gun when needed and that is never. Once a month shoot 3 oiled felt wads through the air gun. Don't forget to wipe your finger prints off of your air gun.
Later,
Jay
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Harold
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Post by Harold on May 22, 2018 10:53:35 GMT
Wow, now thats what Im talking about. Great conversation gentlemen
Harold
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Post by leonard callen on Apr 20, 2019 20:17:24 GMT
How about sizing each pallet
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